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[[User:Benrey|Benrey]] ([[User talk:Benrey|talk]]) 20:03, 19 October 2021 (UTC) - Second Revision
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===10/22/21 Update 4===
===10/22/21 - Update 4===
Added a union that is made of the Tolnai, Arakto, Csongradi and Morahalomi in the Proto-Imperial Era that gives way for the Sio Tribe Family to take root in.  
Added a union that is made of the Tolnai, Arakto, Csongradi and Morahalomi in the Proto-Imperial Era that gives way for the Sio Tribe Family to take root in.  


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<br>- Landseer (Tolnai) to Samoyeds.
<br>- Landseer (Tolnai) to Samoyeds.
<br>- Added Arakto-Tolnai Ice Skating [Simplistic Figure Skating] to the traditions. For the purposes of this article the two will be split between Arakto and Tolnai Ice Skating. Both utilize different costumes and emphasize different movements.
<br>- Added Arakto-Tolnai Ice Skating [Simplistic Figure Skating] to the traditions. For the purposes of this article the two will be split between Arakto and Tolnai Ice Skating. Both utilize different costumes and emphasize different movements.
--[[User:Benrey|Benrey]] ([[User talk:Benrey|talk]]) 06:59, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
===10/25/21 - Update 5===
Added an Imperial Civil War that involves Hoditok-aligned factions and Erdos-aligned factions. This Civil War would primarily involve the Estates of Esztergom, Nagykallo, Kiskallo and Hegyhat.
Added the following concepts:
<br>- Veszpremic Noble Family Esterhazy: The ruling dynasty of the Empire
<br>- Veszpremic Noble Family Kohary: The more simplistic dynasty that partakes in the Imperial Court.
--[[User:Benrey|Benrey]] ([[User talk:Benrey|talk]]) 07:09, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
===10/26/21 - Update 6===
Added the following concepts:
<br>- Salgoi Noble Family Akos
<br>- Vandorolt Redicsi Noble Family Lipot
<br>- Vandorolt Redicsi Noble Family Zamo
<br>- Erdos Noble Family Velencei
<br>- Hoditok Noble Family Hegedus
<br>- Rivalship between the Lipoti and Zamoi
This rivalship and the acts of the Lipoti are central to the character development of Laszlo and Bethlen.
--[[User:Benrey|Benrey]] ([[User talk:Benrey|talk]]) 21:07, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
===10/27/21 - Update 7===
Added several summaries to help develop the Redicsi tribal family. The Lorevi are the most aggressive, the Hevizi are the most noble, the Koszegi are the most peaceful, and the Szegedi are the largest. Despite these traits, the Proto-Imperial development boils to the Lorevi conquering a subjugating the Koszegi and Szegedi before moving onto the Hevizi.
Added the following concepts:
<br>- Added an alliance between the Jeno Coalition (5 subtribes) and the Salgoi Union (2 subtribes)
<br>- Added a war termed the Lorevi Conquest, which involves the most amount of subtribes
<br>- Added the tradition of skull helmets, something the Lorevi did to their enemies that still remains a cultural symbol.
<br>- Added an actual term for the Kis- affixed tribes, ''Kisebb Férfiak'', which lesser man. Perhaps change to Lesser Dog???
--[[User:Benrey|Benrey]] ([[User talk:Benrey|talk]]) 06:59, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
===11/6/21 - Update 8===
Been a bit since I've done these. I honestly forgot much of the stuff I've done during this time so I am not going to use this update as a means of patch notes for what I've done but what I am going to do.
'''Standardization of Traditions'''
Traditions have been kind of whatever I come up with, they vary with quality and everything. So I'm going to take some better measure and start standardizing all of the traditions to make my life easier. Here is how traditions should look:
====Traditions====
* '''Tribal Greeting''': Traditions will always start with a Greeting, even if they use Imperial Standard. Some solitary subtribes (Aroktoi) will have their own due to solitude, some unique tribes (Morahalomi) will have their own due to independence, some belligerent tribes (Kis-Hoditok) will have their own due to their anti-Imperial tradition.
* '''Traditional Caste''': Traditions will continue with the tribe's caste. Every subtribe has their own caste, even if it mixes with other tribes (Morahalomi and Csongradi). These should be the majority of the subtribe's general occupation.
* '''Traditional Clothing''': Traditional clothing will be displayed to the right of this and described. The clothing should match the general occupation/caste/society that they live in. Traditional Clothing will often just be the picture and not a full block of text.
* '''Traditional Celebration(s)''': Traditions will continue with Traditional Celebrations. There are several different Celebratory Categories: New Years, Autumn Harvest, Religious Event, Religious Pilgrimage, Equinox Celebrations, War Events, and Luck Festivals.
* '''Traditional Dance''': Traditions continue with the unique dances of each subtribe. Some subtribes lack a Traditional dance, but the majority have a unique dance that is sometimes paired with opera (Jeno)
* '''Traditional Plays/Drama/Theater''': Traditions continue with unique plays or dramas or theaterics that each tribe has. This is a more general section and can also involve performative duels such as Kalloi Duels where nobody gets hurt.
* '''Traditional Musical Instrument''': Traditions continue with a specific instrument that is unique to a specific tribe. Each subtribe may have one or two instruments, but generally the musical instrument needs to go hand in hand with the dance. The tribe does not necessarily need to have invented the instrument.
* '''Traditional Warrior Class''': Traditional Warrior Classes are rare and only a few sub-tribes have them, being the Hoditok, Kis-Hoditok, Kis-Redicsi, and the Veszpremic.
* '''Traditional Gender Segregation''': Only two tribes practice this tradition: The Csongradi Sio and the Hoditok. The Csongradi instictively value men in society, while the Hoditok instinctively value women.
* '''Traditional Sport''': Traditions continue with sports that usually only come for every tribal family. Sports should be described in rules, amount of players and win conditions. A small tidbit of history should also be included.
* '''Traditional Apostle''': All primary tribes have an apostle from the Folklore Apostles (see character sandbox). Subtribes have Disciples.
* '''Traditional Craft''': Approaching the end of our list, traditions will continue from here with a specific craft. This can be as specific as an embroidery pattern or pot-making, but can also include broader aspects such as architecture.
* '''Traditional Food''': The last one on the list, traditional food should be discussed here and if a commission can be secured, put it on the right.
--[[User:Benrey|Benrey]] ([[User talk:Benrey|talk]]) 00:43, 7 November 2021 (UTC) [Revision 1]
--[[User:Benrey|Benrey]] ([[User talk:Benrey|talk]]) 07:55, 7 November 2021 (UTC) [Revision 2]

Latest revision as of 07:55, 7 November 2021

Patch Note Forum

Each Patch Note is dated for whatever changes are made to whatever subsection and expand on notes that are made by the editor in the history tab. This section should not be edited by unauthorized users. --Benrey (talk) 04:34, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

10/17/21 - Update 1

Added Greetings to the Veszpremic and the Sio Traditions subsection. Added the Yearly Snout Festival and a brief description to the Sio Traditions subsection. -Benrey (talk) 04:34, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

10/17/21 - Update 2

Added various traditions:
- Greetings to Veszpremic, Sio, Mórahalomi.
- Archer Dance to Veszpremic.
- Yearly Snout Festival to Mórahalomi
- Procession of the Queen to Hoditok.

Benrey (talk) 06:00, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

10/19/21 - Update 3

Added a clarification that I had been sitting on, because the Sio and the Jeno did not warmonger and conquer the tribes but instead united with them in fear of other tribes, the Kis-affix has been deleted for the Kis-Sio and Kis-Jeno.

Added a couple of new traditions:
- Dance of the Mountains to the Goralic Salgoi.
- Koszegi Cheese to the Koszegi Redicsi.
- Gendered greetings for Nagyhegyhati Hoditok
- Added Monk Mating Dance for the Csongradi Sio - This name may recieve a change in the future.
- Added the Festival of the Migration for the Migratory Redicsi that live in the Imperial East.
- Added Hegedu for the Eszak Tolnai Sio.

Name changes:
- Removed Kis-Sio and Kis-Jeno names, replaced with Mórahalomi Sio and Ásotthalomi Jeno.
- Removed Asotthalomi name to Kis-Salgoi.

Planned changes:
- Potential name change to the Eszak Tolnai Sio due to a lack of a Tolnai Sio, and name may not reflect geographic but town name (similar to Jeno family)
- Name changes for Felvidéki Jeno and Középjeno.

--Benrey (talk) 18:01, 19 October 2021 (UTC) - First Revision
Benrey (talk) 20:03, 19 October 2021 (UTC) - Second Revision

10/22/21 - Update 4

Added a union that is made of the Tolnai, Arakto, Csongradi and Morahalomi in the Proto-Imperial Era that gives way for the Sio Tribe Family to take root in.

Added a concept that may or may not be expanded on:
- Veszpremic conquest of the Balaton and Tolna
- Potential Union of the Csongradi and Morahalomi
- Post-war Union of the Tolna, Arakto, Csongradi and Morahalomi
- Potential Political Strife where the Tolnai are rebranded as the Veszpremic during the lead up to the formation of The Empire
- Potential light-caste system.

Other changes:
- Eszak Tolnai Sio to Arakto Sio.
- Landseer (Tolnai) to Samoyeds.
- Added Arakto-Tolnai Ice Skating [Simplistic Figure Skating] to the traditions. For the purposes of this article the two will be split between Arakto and Tolnai Ice Skating. Both utilize different costumes and emphasize different movements.

--Benrey (talk) 06:59, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

10/25/21 - Update 5

Added an Imperial Civil War that involves Hoditok-aligned factions and Erdos-aligned factions. This Civil War would primarily involve the Estates of Esztergom, Nagykallo, Kiskallo and Hegyhat.

Added the following concepts:
- Veszpremic Noble Family Esterhazy: The ruling dynasty of the Empire
- Veszpremic Noble Family Kohary: The more simplistic dynasty that partakes in the Imperial Court.

--Benrey (talk) 07:09, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

10/26/21 - Update 6

Added the following concepts:


- Salgoi Noble Family Akos
- Vandorolt Redicsi Noble Family Lipot
- Vandorolt Redicsi Noble Family Zamo
- Erdos Noble Family Velencei
- Hoditok Noble Family Hegedus
- Rivalship between the Lipoti and Zamoi

This rivalship and the acts of the Lipoti are central to the character development of Laszlo and Bethlen.

--Benrey (talk) 21:07, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

10/27/21 - Update 7

Added several summaries to help develop the Redicsi tribal family. The Lorevi are the most aggressive, the Hevizi are the most noble, the Koszegi are the most peaceful, and the Szegedi are the largest. Despite these traits, the Proto-Imperial development boils to the Lorevi conquering a subjugating the Koszegi and Szegedi before moving onto the Hevizi.

Added the following concepts:
- Added an alliance between the Jeno Coalition (5 subtribes) and the Salgoi Union (2 subtribes)
- Added a war termed the Lorevi Conquest, which involves the most amount of subtribes
- Added the tradition of skull helmets, something the Lorevi did to their enemies that still remains a cultural symbol.
- Added an actual term for the Kis- affixed tribes, Kisebb Férfiak, which lesser man. Perhaps change to Lesser Dog???

--Benrey (talk) 06:59, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

11/6/21 - Update 8

Been a bit since I've done these. I honestly forgot much of the stuff I've done during this time so I am not going to use this update as a means of patch notes for what I've done but what I am going to do.

Standardization of Traditions Traditions have been kind of whatever I come up with, they vary with quality and everything. So I'm going to take some better measure and start standardizing all of the traditions to make my life easier. Here is how traditions should look:

Traditions

  • Tribal Greeting: Traditions will always start with a Greeting, even if they use Imperial Standard. Some solitary subtribes (Aroktoi) will have their own due to solitude, some unique tribes (Morahalomi) will have their own due to independence, some belligerent tribes (Kis-Hoditok) will have their own due to their anti-Imperial tradition.
  • Traditional Caste: Traditions will continue with the tribe's caste. Every subtribe has their own caste, even if it mixes with other tribes (Morahalomi and Csongradi). These should be the majority of the subtribe's general occupation.
  • Traditional Clothing: Traditional clothing will be displayed to the right of this and described. The clothing should match the general occupation/caste/society that they live in. Traditional Clothing will often just be the picture and not a full block of text.
  • Traditional Celebration(s): Traditions will continue with Traditional Celebrations. There are several different Celebratory Categories: New Years, Autumn Harvest, Religious Event, Religious Pilgrimage, Equinox Celebrations, War Events, and Luck Festivals.
  • Traditional Dance: Traditions continue with the unique dances of each subtribe. Some subtribes lack a Traditional dance, but the majority have a unique dance that is sometimes paired with opera (Jeno)
  • Traditional Plays/Drama/Theater: Traditions continue with unique plays or dramas or theaterics that each tribe has. This is a more general section and can also involve performative duels such as Kalloi Duels where nobody gets hurt.
  • Traditional Musical Instrument: Traditions continue with a specific instrument that is unique to a specific tribe. Each subtribe may have one or two instruments, but generally the musical instrument needs to go hand in hand with the dance. The tribe does not necessarily need to have invented the instrument.
  • Traditional Warrior Class: Traditional Warrior Classes are rare and only a few sub-tribes have them, being the Hoditok, Kis-Hoditok, Kis-Redicsi, and the Veszpremic.
  • Traditional Gender Segregation: Only two tribes practice this tradition: The Csongradi Sio and the Hoditok. The Csongradi instictively value men in society, while the Hoditok instinctively value women.
  • Traditional Sport: Traditions continue with sports that usually only come for every tribal family. Sports should be described in rules, amount of players and win conditions. A small tidbit of history should also be included.
  • Traditional Apostle: All primary tribes have an apostle from the Folklore Apostles (see character sandbox). Subtribes have Disciples.
  • Traditional Craft: Approaching the end of our list, traditions will continue from here with a specific craft. This can be as specific as an embroidery pattern or pot-making, but can also include broader aspects such as architecture.
  • Traditional Food: The last one on the list, traditional food should be discussed here and if a commission can be secured, put it on the right.


--Benrey (talk) 00:43, 7 November 2021 (UTC) [Revision 1] --Benrey (talk) 07:55, 7 November 2021 (UTC) [Revision 2]