200mm L/50 Type 29 naval gun

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200 mm L/50 Type 29 naval gun
TypeNaval gun
Place of originGreater Menghean Empire
Service history
In service1933—1945
Used byGreater Menghean Empire
WarsPan-Septentrion War
Production history
Designed1924—1929
Produced1929—1944
Specifications
Weight19040 kg (gun only)
Barrel length10 meters (bore)

Caliber200mm
BreechWelin breech block
Elevationvaries with mount
Traversevaries with mount
Rate of fire2-4 rounds/min (depending on mounting)
Muzzle velocity840 m/s
Maximum firing range29,200 m at 46.7 degrees

The 200mm L/50 Type 29 naval gun (Menghean: 200밀리 50구경장 29식 해군 대포, i-ryong-ryong milli o-ryong gugyŏngjang i-gu-sik haegun daepo) was a naval gun developed in the Greater Menghean Empire during the late 1920s. It formed the standard armament for Menghean heavy cruisers until the middle of the Pan-Septentrion War, when it was replaced in new construction by the 200mm L/55 Type 40 naval gun. A decent weapon for its time, it performed well in its "G-type" turret mounting, though the cramped "N-type" turret of the six-gun cruisers was found to have a lower rate of fire and higher dispersion.

Development

Under the Septentrion Nine-Power Naval Treaty, a capital ship was defined as any combat vessel with a standard displacement of over 12,000 long tons and carrying any gun with a caliber of over 8 inches (203 millimeters). This set the latter as the effective upper limit on caliber for "treaty cruisers" designed to make maximum use of the non-limited displacement category. An amendment to the treaty in 1930 further cemented this restriction, distinguishing between heavy cruisers with guns 6 to 8 inches in caliber and light cruisers with guns under 6 inches in caliber.

By the time of the treaty's signing, the Menghean Navy already operated a few armored cruisers with 8-inch guns, but these were 1900s-vintage weapons which the Navy deemed obsolete for newly built warships. As such, in 1924 ordered research into a new type of 200-millimeter gun which could be mounted on a prospective treaty cruiser design. This would eventually develop into the Madaesan-class. The requirements called for greater accuracy and range than early designs, as well as a new armor-piercing shell.

The completed naval gun was accepted for service in 1928, the 29th year of Menghe's unification, and was accordingly given the Type 29 designation. The cause of its long development is unknown, and surviving documents are scarce; some historians suggest it was due to limited funding from the Federal Assembly, which had also delayed the construction of the Madaesan-class cruisers, while others interpret it as a sign that the Navy waited until the Madaesan had been laid down before officially issuing the weapon a Type-year designation.

Description

The 200mm L/55 Type 29 was a built-up gun with a Welin breech block. Each round consisted of a single shell and two separate bag-type powder charges. On all naval mounts, the shell and charges were lined up behind the breech and rammed in automatically at a fixed angle of 5 degrees. As a result of the fixed loading angle, the exact rate of fire depended on the range of the engagement, as at long ranges the gun would have to transition to and from a higher elevation between each salvo.

Performance

Note: figures below are for the 126-kilogram Type 29 armor-piercing shell. High-explosive and illumination shells were also available; they had the same mass as the AP shell. Note that while the maximum range is listed for 46.7 degrees, the "G-type" turrets could only elevate to +45 degrees.

Elevation Range Striking velocity Angle of fall Penetration (side) Penetration (deck)
2.4 degrees 5,000 m 650 m/s 3.0 degrees 268mm N/A
5.3 degrees 10,000 m 498 m/s 7.5 degrees 190mm N/A
10.5 degrees 15,000 m 396 m/s 15.8 degrees 139mm 30mm
18.0 degrees 20,000 m 364 m/s 29.0 degrees 96mm 46mm
31.0 degrees 25,000 m 380 m/s 47.0 degrees 72mm 67mm
46.7 degrees 29,200 m 394 m/s 52.0 degrees 60mm 93mm

Mountings

Two main mountings were designed for the 200mm L/50 Type 29 naval gun. The "G-type" was the original version intended for the Madaesan-class cruisers. It featured heavy armor comparable to the cruiser's main citadel, and offered good interior space for loading and fire control. The "N-type" turret, by contrast, was intended as a more compact version for use on the Taean and Jinan-class cruisers, which had a lighter displacement and a narrower beam. In an effort to save weight and space, the guns were mounted close together and were not individually sleeved; some internal equipment was also not duplicated. The armor was also thinner, though still comparable to the belt and deck armor of the Taean cruiser family. Because the gunhouse was more cramped and the hoists less efficient, the firing cycle was 28 seconds at +5 degrees, compared to 16 seconds at the same elevation on the "G-type" turret.

The narrow spacing between barrels on the "N-type" turrets was found to result in above-normal shell dispersion, because the muzzle blast from each gun impacted the trajectory of the shell from the gun next to it. An electronic timing system intended to slightly stagger the firing of the two guns was only slightly successful. There were no reports of disappointing accuracy on the "G-type" turrets, suggesting that the problem stemmed from the mounting rather than the gun itself.

While some heavy cruiser turrets in this period had the ability to elevate past 60 degrees and fire timed-fuse HE shells at formations of aircraft, this feature was not included on either turret type. Even if it had been, the slow traverse and elevation rates, as well as the need to return the gun to +5 degrees for reloading, would have rendered the anti-air capability ineffective for the most part, a problem which Dayashinese and Tyrannian cruiser captains encountered during the Pan-Septentrion War.

Turret designation G-type N-type
Used on Madaesan-class cruiser
Taegisan-class cruiser
Taean-class cruiser (1938 refit)
Jinan-class cruiser
Elevation -5 to +45 degrees -5 to +50 degrees
Elevation rate 8 degrees/sec 8 degrees/sec
Train -120 to +120 degrees -135 to +135 degrees (?)
Train rate 3 degrees/sec 5 degrees/sec
Loading angle +5 degrees +5 degrees
Rate of fire 3-4 rounds per minute 2 rounds per minute
Independently sleeved? Yes No
Armor Front: 200mm
Sides:150mm
Top:125-75mm
Rear:20mm
Front: 100mm
Cheeks: 75mm
Sides and rear: 20mm
Top:50-30mm
Crew Gunhouse: 20
Shell room: 9
Powder room: 10
Gunhouse: 17
Shell room: 9
Powder room: 10

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